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| johnpaulca 12,036 posts
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 cup and handle?
 
 
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 JP
 
 1. liked the dividend
 2. used filter posted below
 3. ema33 > ema55
 4. low touched ema33 and closed above
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 | 7/25/2014 10:35:34 PM 
 http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/recent_trans.php
 
 
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 | 7/26/2014 11:21:18 AM 
 http://www.marketwatch.com/story/buy-and-hold-is-impossible-2014-07-25?siteid=yhoof2
 
 
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| novacane32000 331 posts
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 | 7/27/2014 5:15:40 PM 
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 Do you have a favorite filter for going long-short?
 
 
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 | 7/27/2014 6:19:00 PM 
 novacane32000,
 
 No favorite for long/short. I rarely short.
 I don't go short unless it pays no dividend. I don't go long unless it pays a dividend. I stay away from OTC. Low > 10. Decent volume.
 
 I look for a dip in the short trend while the  long trend is keeping the momentum (opposite for short). I enter at the trigger day price (high=long,low=short) or better, next day, with a stop-limit. I exit with a limit.
 
 I also find that I will keep setting new trades if the stock is going down (new order based on the new high each day--if long) until it executes. This seems to keep me out of many stocks that react poorly to the filter.
 
 You will see a "trend" in the filters posted that reflect the above thesis.I keep my "bet" small (individual stock)) enough that a 50% drawdown doesn't hurt. The dividends keep pumping new money into the 'system.
 
 I always have trouble with the exit (win/loss).
 
 Perhaps,  you can offer your favorites with the rules... or rework one of my posts into something.
 
 
 HTH
 
 
 Here is something you might play with for a short. i would test it visually by moving forward, hence the offset being 100 days.
 Again, you would keep resetting your order if the filter hits again. I would be interested in a filter that doesn't have to be reset. Does anyone here enter at the trigger and accept an immediate drawdown and exit for a loss? Or set a farther away stoploss and let the stock "meander" for a while? Average up? Average down? Pyramid in either direction?
 
 
 
 
 FIRST RECTANGLE:
 EXAMPLE OF WAITING A WHILE FOR THE SHORT TO BE LARGE AND RUNNING INTO MANY FALSE SIGNALE AND RESETTING THE ORDER
 
 Second Rectangle, on the other hand, went much better.
 
   
 
 
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