| sbuck143 88 posts
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 | 4/5/2010 2:43:24 PM 
 Straken used a pretty indepth example,   but the basic premise is what is known as the dreaded  "Volatility crush".
 
 My first foray into options many years ago was trying to run straddles against Biotech companies in advance of major FDA announcements of trials, etc.     Nary a winner to be found unless the stock moved so far that one of the options went deep ITM.
 
 Leading up to earnings or FDA announcements,  but especially right before *say a week or so*,  the options on both sides - puts and calls - become massively over-priced with volatility driven "time-value".     This effect is most apparent at the ATM strikes.     When the big news is announced,   the volatility on the options implode, and the so-called volatility crush deflates the price of all the options in that front month, no matter the direction of the stock.
 
 As mentioned above,  the only sure bet during these kinds of events is to be selling those options to the folks who don't know anything about volatility crushes  or who absently hope that "this time will be different".        Unfortunately, you have to have a mucho big acct to sell options naked,    so its not a little mans game.
 
 
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| abelincoln 126 posts
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 | 4/5/2010 7:57:25 PM 
 Thanks for responses
 
 it's a lot more crystal now...
 
 so the feverish straddle traders looking to profit regardless of direction in fact caused the increase in activity (IV) well above normal especially in the front month to the point that the weight of the increased volatility imploded (back to the 'normal') and crushed those same traders
 
 basically if to many traders pile in at the same time with the same play ;
 the play becomes obvious and worthless except to the astute IV option seller
 
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| sbuck143 88 posts
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 | 4/6/2010 11:40:14 AM 
 Thanks for responses
 
 it's a lot more crystal now...
 
 so the feverish straddle traders looking to profit regardless of direction in fact caused the increase in activity (IV) well above normal especially in the front month to the point that the weight of the increased volatility imploded (back to the 'normal') and crushed those same traders
 
 basically if to many traders pile in at the same time with the same play ;
 the play becomes obvious and worthless except to the astute IV option seller
 
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 Well its important to uthe volatility crush doesn't occur because there was a breaking point of too many people on the wagon.
 
 It occurs simply because the news/event/announcement  that was driving all the rampant speculation becomes a known event.     Thus ending all the speculation and rumor that fueled the volatility spike in the first place.      No hysteria = equals massive deflation as IV reverts to normal.
 
 
 
 
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| sbuck143 88 posts
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 | 4/6/2010 11:44:47 AM 
 One strategy I've meant to investigate but havent had the time.......
 
 Buying far month  OTM options as your long basis,  and selling front month ATM options to be that "astute options seller".
 
 The far month options serve as your cover to allow you to sell the near term overpriced stuff.
 
 The key is finding the far month options whose IV is not out of line and thus wont be too badly hurt when the Vol Crush comes.
 
 
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| sbuck143 88 posts
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 | 4/7/2010 8:34:42 AM 
 There is however one instrument that doesn't exhibit any IV, and thus will not get crushed on big announcements - well as long as you get the direction right.
 
 
 THE STOCK!!
 
 If its a popular stock you maybe could do a synthetic margin position, buying a deep ITM LEAP  call   or  put  (but not both), and just play the stock movement instead of the option.
 
 
 
 
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| abelincoln 126 posts
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 | 5/1/2010 1:07:00 PM 
 found in b&n on 3rd ave yesterday
 interesting browse to kil time
 
 trading options as a professional: techniques for market makers and experienced traders
 james bittman
 
 
 hey m4m why don't you have a meeting at b&n i'll be there, lol
 
 
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| abelincoln 126 posts
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 | 5/1/2010 1:10:30 PM 
 u know i was stinkin'
 tinkin :-) volitility gave you an edge but it's up in the air like everything else
 except.... Error: This message has been deleted
 
 
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| abelincoln 126 posts
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 | 5/1/2010 1:11:11 PM 
 happy MAY day
 
 swing around the MAYpole
 
 
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| Eman93 4,750 posts
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 | 5/1/2010 2:34:51 PM 
 Options Express has a option calculator ...... you can do all kinds of spreads and  iron condors  put spreads..... everything..
 
 Like anything you need to build enough in your account and then you can sell the options naked....
 
 Trading the ES mini seems like  a good way to get started IMHO..... a lot of bang for the buck.... if you are just buying
 
 
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